The chief economist for sustainable development at the World Bank Group Marianne Fay. PHOTO | CHRISTOPHER KIDANKA | NATION
The chief economist for sustainable development at the World
Bank Group Marianne Fay spoke to Victor Karega on why Tanzania should
embrace green growth.
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What are the main obstacles to achieving green growth in Tanzania?
The
concept of ‘green growth’ is only questioned by powerful players in
politics and business, and, by the environmental community.
For
them, sustainability and growth are mutually exclusive. Therefore, they
either go for growth regardless of the environmental consequences or
jealously guard the environment to the exclusion of all else.
So
we have to convince the policy makers, businesses and green activists
that you do not have to choose between economic prosperity and a healthy
environment.
There are of course powerful vested
interests who see their business model at risk. Like every revolution,
the green industrial revolution is about structural change, and
profiteers from the status quo will always try to defend their special
interests.
What are some of the concerns here?
One
question people would ask is “can we afford this?” We are still in the
wake of the global financial crisis and many people perceive green
economy solutions as expensive.
Developing countries
like Tanzania are concerned that transitioning to a green economy will
hinder economic growth and the ability to reduce poverty.
Furthermore, there will be short-term, non-trivial losses associated with changes in industry and market structure.
For
example, the decline of the coal industry led to job losses. It is
vital to support those who will bear the brunt of the transition. This
will be critical to building broad ownership for a green economy.
Others
feel that their country is lacking in green technology know-how and,
therefore, will be at a competitive disadvantage in the race for future
markets.
What are the challenges to making this transition possible?
The
principal one is how we move towards an economic system that will
benefit more people over the long run. Transitioning will require a
fundamental shift in thinking about growth and development, production
of goods and services, and consumer habits.
It will
not happen solely because of better information on impacts, risks or
good economic analysis; ultimately, it is about politics and changing
the political economy of how big decisions are made.
You
mentioned the key elements of approaching a green economy, which
include a revolution in efficiency, zero waste emissions, agricultural
greening and sustainable mobility. What can the average person in
Tanzania do to support these efforts?
Every
one of us should and can be an agent for change. We can change our
eating habits, rest our private cars in favour of public transport,
biking and opt for environment-friendly products.
But I won’t move all the responsibility to the private individual. Policy and technical innovation matter even more.
Why
is collaboration between businesses, investors, organisations and
public institutions so important to achieving green growth?
It
is important because the world is complex, and so are the sustainable
development challenges we face – the environment, technical
capabilities, finance, governance and social justice.
No
single arm of the public or private sector can address these challenges
alone at the speed and scale that is necessary. We need their expertise
and combined strength.
Experience has shown that
collaboration is the best way to tap into the diverse strengths of
different stakeholders. For example, the private sector tends to be more
innovative and flexible and can complement what policy makers bring to
the table.
Working across geographic and sector
boundaries, we can identify the most pressing challenges, break down
policy and investment barriers, and explore practical solutions. The
whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
Would a green economy spur Tanzania’s economic growth?
Yes.
It will become a veritable tool for economic growth and diversification
just as it has done in countries that are not as endowed with natural
resources. Tanzania’s challenge at this point is how to harness the huge
opportunities in the environment.
The green economy
supports national economic advancement as it cuts across every aspect of
the economy. With proper harnessing of natural resources economic gain
will be faster.
However, realising the full potential
of green jobs depends on how Tanzania develops the green economy and
enact policies that will foster investment.
Therefore,
the government should sensitise the citizens towards going green and
achieving a toxic-free environment. A green economy is pragmatic, sound
economics.
A word for the policymakers?
We
look at which public policy instruments are best suited to scale up and
accelerate the green economy. We need to leverage the markets since
this kind of transition will not happen with public funding alone.
They
will happen because the market is given signals to invest in greener
production technology, and a more diversified energy infrastructure.
The
price of carbon is important: the economy can actually make a major
innovation leap if it believes that a transition to low-carbon output is
now a firm decision.
Then the private sector would
start changing its product, investment, innovation and research and
development strategies. But so long as private sector does not see
seriousness from government and society, it will continue to hedge.
Bio
Background: Founding member of the Green Growth Knowledge Platform.
Education:
PhD in Economics from Columbia University.
Experience:
Held positions in different regions of the World Bank (Eastern Europe,
Central Asia, Latin America, the Caribbean, Africa), working on
infrastructure, urbanisation, and climate change. She is the author of a
number of articles and books on these topics.
Work: Has previously served as the chief economist for climate change.
She
contributed to a number of World Development Reports, notably the World
Development Report 2010 on Development and Climate Change which she
co-directed, and led a number of recent World Bank reports, such as
Inclusive Green growth: the Pathway to Sustainable Development and
Decarbonising Development: Three Steps to a Zero-Carbon Future.
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