The President, Chartered
Institute of Bankers of Nigeria, Dr. Uche Olowu, in this interview, says
notwithstanding the challenges the economy faced last year, 2020 will
be a better year as the impact of investments in infrastructure begins
to materialise, with an anticipated improvement in power supply as well
sustained coordination between the fiscal and monetary policy
authorities. Obinna Chima and Nume Ekeghe bring the excerpts:
How will you say the Nigerian economy performed in 2019?
The year 2019 was turbulent. But if you
look at the antecedent of what happened in the previous years, the ship
has been steadied. That is the best way to describe 2019. Unemployment
is still very
high. The exchange rate has been stable and that is
because the central bank has done yeoman’s job by defending the naira
and in keeping it steady; and monetary policy has been very stable. In
terms of interest rate, we are almost talking about single-digit
interest rate and we are getting there. And then of course, the oil
price has done Nigeria good because volatility has not been there, so we
could plan.
Also, in terms of infrastructure, we are
still getting more investment in that space but the impact has not
really shown. So, on the economy, depending on where you are looking at
it from, I believe it is an economy that has now steadied. But, the
impact has not really been felt on the people and citizens because there
are still complaints and there is poverty in the land. And we have not
been able to create enough jobs. But, the basic building blocks are
there and we hope that 2020 would hold a brighter prospect.
And the expected bright prospect can be
attributed to the fact that we have changed the budgetary calendar which
is now from January to December. So, we expect that execution would be
faster. On corruption, the fight has been there, but that fight is
humungous. People are always looking at government, but even in the
smaller facets of life where there is transaction between people, there
is still corruption all over the whole place. So, we need do a lot of
value re-orientation if we have to, because corruption has eaten so deep
into the society.
And whatever policies you come up with,
that cancer would always try to limit the good. Yes ‘big fish’ have been
jailed like past governors and that is sending the right signal to the
people in government and for those who are to come. This is because, if
you have been made a steward in charge of people’s resources, you have
to be very faithful and not divert the resources. In terms of attracting
investment, because no government whether it is America or China, which
are success stories develop with foreign investment inflow.
So, foreign direct investment (FDI) is
very important and that we did not see much last year. And that is also
because we need to tweak our policies to be more attractive to foreign
investors. And my advice to the government would be to create that
confidence for FDIs to come. Portfolio investors are hot money and that
cannot develop this country. We must try as much as possible to ensure
that we create that confidence in the mind of investors. There had been
one or two policy summersaults here and there, but thank God we are
beginning to see some semblance of focus in terms of tackling the
problem. So, overall, 2019, I would say the ship has been steadied; we
are not yet there because the common man is still suffering quite a lot.
But we expect that 2020 would be better because we have to keep hope
alive.
And for the banking sector?
For the banking sector that I represent, I can say the regulator, the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), has come out with policies that tried to ensure financial stability. Basically, in terms of the monetary policy, I would like to commend the regulator for maintaining price stability which is very critical. We have also seen exchange rate stability. Yes, it may come at a cost, but the most important thing is that businesses can now plan which has created certainty in the economy.
For the banking sector that I represent, I can say the regulator, the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), has come out with policies that tried to ensure financial stability. Basically, in terms of the monetary policy, I would like to commend the regulator for maintaining price stability which is very critical. We have also seen exchange rate stability. Yes, it may come at a cost, but the most important thing is that businesses can now plan which has created certainty in the economy.
And then, you have seen that the
non-performing loans (NPLs) have significantly come down, and that is
because we the players, regulators and even our institute have come
together to say we need to change credit behavior in this country and
that is very critical. Banks have cleaned their books and accretion on
NPLs have come down; and of course, we are trying to deepen the
financial market. In the area of financial inclusion which is very
critical to the economy, the CBN, deposit money banks and the Chartered
Institute of Bankers of Nigeria (CIBN) introduced a special purpose
vehicle called the Shared Agent Network Expansion Facility (SANEF).
SANEF is a vehicle that was introduced
to deepen financial inclusion. I believe we have crossed 60 per cent and
we need to do more in that area. Overall, the banking sector has
supported the economy very well. In fact, I am almost tempted to say
that if the fiscal policy had done as much as the monetary policy side
of the economy, we would have been a lot better. But we believe that in
2020, there would be improvement. Our financial system is now very
stable and we have also tried to train the skilled workforce that would
intermediate on the economy.
In the banking space, 2019 wasn’t a bad
year for us because of the earlier stability I have alluded to as a
result of the activities of the regulators. The regulator has increased
the loan-to-deposit (LDR). That was designed to give the desired oxygen
in the real sector and down the line, you would see various small and
medium scale enterprises (SMEs) accessing credit without much
difficulties and that is the way to go if we want to grow the economy.
So, the banking sector on its own is trying to drive the economy and has done very well.
However, as we having fintechs, we need to beef up some investment in cyber security, which is a major one we are pushing to address.
Overall, I would score the banking sector 75 per cent, even though there is room for improvement and we are beginning to see a banking sector that is passionate and is focused on driving this economy.
However, as we having fintechs, we need to beef up some investment in cyber security, which is a major one we are pushing to address.
Overall, I would score the banking sector 75 per cent, even though there is room for improvement and we are beginning to see a banking sector that is passionate and is focused on driving this economy.
Still on the banking sector, the
CBN recently reduced most of the charges. How do you think this would
affect their performance going forward?
I must commend the CBN because as you
know, as journalists you would have been hearing about series of
complaints on excess charges, which was against the cashless policy, and
other policies of the central bank. So, what the central bank did
showed that they have listening ears and that they are also aware of
those who bear the burden, especially those at the lower rank of ladder
and that you don’t need to over burden them with charges. The reduction
in bank charges was designed to encourage financial inclusion.
So, very clearly, if you ask me, banking
should be without charges for those in the rural area because what that
means is that it would give them that impetus to be included in the
system. But for bank, this might affect them in them in terms of their
non-interest income. But on the flip side, it would also increase
velocity of banking. Now, the charges are lower, we should begin to see a
lot more activities. So, what they would lose in absolute numbers, they
would gain by the increased velocity. So, for me, I doubt if it would
affect their profitability.
This market is still underbanked and we still have a lot of financial intermediation that needs to be done. It is a welcomed development and the CBN has consulted and met with the banks and it is a very good one and I must commend them.
This market is still underbanked and we still have a lot of financial intermediation that needs to be done. It is a welcomed development and the CBN has consulted and met with the banks and it is a very good one and I must commend them.
There have been this raging argument
about whether the federal government should take additional debt or not.
For you, what is the best way out of the situation the country is faced
with presently?
This is a very complex thing and I feel
for both the government and the citizen. There are two ways to it: Yes,
it is true that Debt-to-GDP is low but the economic activity is very
low. So, you begin to tax people that are not producing enough. I
believe that what we should have done would be to review in a way to
increase the tax bracket. Government funds their revenue from the tax
base which is not even enough and so the alternative would be to borrow.
The question to ask is, what are they borrowing for? Is it
infrastructure that would jumpstart economic activities? Why people are
opposing it is because the resources are not adequately used and we
don’t get value for the projects being executed. We are accruing more
debt and where would you get the money to repay back those debts. And if
the federal government says they are borrowing to improve the
infrastructure, and if they are going to execute projects that would
improve the lives of the citizens and make enterprise to thrive, then I
support that. If I were to advice, borrowing should be channeled to
infrastructure that would motivate entrepreneurs. I understand and
appreciate what is being done in the rail sector because that area would
have a massive impact on the economy if we get it right.
I support the idea that government
should be more transparent and tell us how these monies are being used,
so that we can be assured of what is being done with the monies borrowed
today. So, in answering your question, borrowing is good, but it should
be channeled towards those sectors that would grow the economy. One
more thing we have not done very well is on government’s reputation. We
have not been able to instill and inspire confidence. Why would other
climes attract investment and we are not able to attracting investment?
We really need to stop having a socialist bent and have a free market
that would encourage people to come to this economy. Also, vocational
schools are very critical. What made China what the country is today,
was their massive investment in vocational schools. And so, we have to
look at this in a holistic manner. We shouldn’t borrow for consumption
and government should also curb leakages. And we can all try as much as
possible to support the government from our various spheres.
Have you seen the Finance Bill, and do you think it would address some of these challenges?
The Finance Bill is a very good one if
signed into law and if effectively implemented. It is designed tackle
the problems we are looking at, but it is not enough. We still need to
find a way in making sure people are patriotic in this country so that
as the bill is coming out, some whiz kids shouldn’t be looking at the
loopholes.
Earlier you talked about
capacity in the banking sector, some of the bankers in the 80s and 90s
would always talk about a drop in the quality of manpower in the
industry today, compared with the period when they were in service. Do
you agree with this and if yes, what can be done to address it?
The difference between those old bankers
and the new ones is that the system wasn’t sophisticated then. Then,
they kept it in the very simplest form and they were brilliant. And in
terms of ethical conducts, I agree, they were far better. For most of
them, what mattered so much then was the name. but today, banking has
evolved and is becoming more complex. And so, you cannot compare this
era with that era. It is just like what is happening in the society, the
banking sector is also a mirror of the society and values and things
have changed.
And you begin to see those in the habit
of get-rich-quick wanting to play funny games. I agree with you to some
extent in terms of training the people. It is not necessarily your
degree, and banking is as an apprenticeship thing. You learn so much on
the job and you train people. We lost it when we didn’t train people and
that was why we had the kind of problems that we had like the issue of
failed banks and all. But today, I can tell you that it is now consigned
to history. We know that today if you don’t have the required capacity
you cannot play in the market of today. All banks now have banking
academies and the academies were designed to enable us train bankers and
people who graduated from the universities. So banks have realised the
need to train and are making a lot of investment in capacity building.
In CIBN, we have done quite a lot. We
accredit all the learning academies of banks. Today, banking has changed
and it is very complex now and it is driven by technology. I can boast
that today, our bankers can compete anywhere and in any clime. We are
now in a global village and we train quite a lot of them, both
internally and externally. Efforts are designed to making sure that
people learn on the job and people are properly trained because if you
don’t train them, don’t hold them accountable for any lapses.
The area we need to pay more attention
to is on ethics. I can agree with you that ethics in the industry today
and that of the 80s are not the same. That is why the institute is
playing a yeoman’s job in trying to make sure that everybody complies
with the Code of Conduct all bankers signed. If you have any infraction,
the institute is open to prosecution because we have a tribunal and
once judgement is passed, you would only appeal to the appeal court
because we have a retired Supreme Court Judge as our Assessor. So,
disciplinary mechanism is very strong in the institute today. So, you
cannot but, comply with current rules.
Can you take us through some of your achievement you became CIBN President?
When I came on board in May 2018, I
reviewed the state of institute and I had five cardinal focus – Rules
and standards; building capacity; leveraging on technology; changing the
narrative of our institute, and then how we address our people. Have we
done them? Largely we have done all that I decided to do. On rules and
standard, we know that ethics is very important and today every banker
in this country writes the Ethics and Compliance certification which is
renewed every year.
Does the exam apply to only commercial banks?
All of the banks, including microfinance banks. A pilot study started with the commercial banks, so that alone puts the bankers in a better position, just like what happens in the UK where the authority certifies you. We have also prepared to change our Act to further strengthen us in terms of making sure we have the necessary allegiance to achieve our mandate. And our mandate clearly is built on ethics, capacity building, advocacy as it concerns the industry.
All of the banks, including microfinance banks. A pilot study started with the commercial banks, so that alone puts the bankers in a better position, just like what happens in the UK where the authority certifies you. We have also prepared to change our Act to further strengthen us in terms of making sure we have the necessary allegiance to achieve our mandate. And our mandate clearly is built on ethics, capacity building, advocacy as it concerns the industry.
And on capacity building, you would see
more graduates today writing our exams because we have reviewed our
syllabus. Today, we are getting accolades from the International
Monetary Fund (IMF), international institutions in Hong Kong, Singapore;
and that is because when we reviewed our syllabus, we did a thorough
survey to know what people wanted and we wanted to make sure that
holders of our certifications are highly sort after in the market today.
We have received a lot of accolades for that because what we have today
is comparable to CFA. Also, in pursuant of capacity building, we are
talking with National Universities Commission (NUC) to change the
curriculum of the universities especially those doing banking and
finance. NUC is enthusiastic about it.
When do you think that would happen?
We already in talks and we have forwarded the proposed courses to be added to the curriculum to them and we have agreed. The Nigerian Economic Summit Group (NESG) and NUC had a conference in our secretariat where they saw what we were doing and they were pleased with it and they are going to change the curriculum. When I came in, we had an average of 300-400 people qualifying yearly, but today, we are talking about 2,000 people which is a massive jump because of the various initiatives we introduce. On technology, we have digitalised our operations.
We already in talks and we have forwarded the proposed courses to be added to the curriculum to them and we have agreed. The Nigerian Economic Summit Group (NESG) and NUC had a conference in our secretariat where they saw what we were doing and they were pleased with it and they are going to change the curriculum. When I came in, we had an average of 300-400 people qualifying yearly, but today, we are talking about 2,000 people which is a massive jump because of the various initiatives we introduce. On technology, we have digitalised our operations.
Although we are not yet there, but we
would continue to review that so that members can interact with the
website and through that platform you can interact with the institute
without coming to the secretariat. In terms of changing the narrative,
today we have so many collaborations. I was invited to the IMF, the
United nations and the Economic Commission for Africa. So, we have been
in all areas. We have a collaboration with IFC on ethics and we have so
many collaborations with international bodies.
Nigeria is the chairman of African
Alliance of Institute of Bankers. Prior to this it, the secretariat used
to be rotated all over Africa, but we have gotten the secretariat to be
domiciled in Nigeria. We did that to interface with the various
multinational agencies. We are well received by the government and we
have changed the narrative of who is an associate of the CIBN. Our exams
are written all over Africa – Ghana, Gambia, Sierra Leone, Rwanda and
we are in so many countries and we want to dominate the African
continent.
In the international community we are
well recognised. And we have intervened in so many policies of
government and we have continued to support the legislative agenda
because as of today, any bill, whether it is the Finance Bill or any
potent discussion, the CIBN would be invited by the National Assembly.
However, I would need posterity to judge me on whether we have done well
but I can say that the institute is going higher and higher and we
would remain there.
What is your outlook for the economy for 2020?
We expect a better 2020 because the impact of the investment in the infrastructural sector would begin to materialise. We are beginning to see some improvement in power and we expect it to show in output. The fiscal and monetary policy will become better. The budget was passed on time and we expect that releases would happen as revenue come in to make sure those areas are covered.
We expect a better 2020 because the impact of the investment in the infrastructural sector would begin to materialise. We are beginning to see some improvement in power and we expect it to show in output. The fiscal and monetary policy will become better. The budget was passed on time and we expect that releases would happen as revenue come in to make sure those areas are covered.
But it is still tough and I cannot say
it would be all rosy but we would begin to see positive direction.
Inflation is down although it went up as a result of the border closure,
which the institute supports; but that is a short-term measure and we
expect that inflation should come down later in the year. Overall, we
expect an exciting 2020 if the policies are carefully executed with the
relevant laws that have been put in place. I am not overly excited but
we would see positive growth this year.
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