Summary
- When you ask Sally Karago what fashion is, she says it is the sky, the trees and the animals. To mean fashion is around us and it is not conventional.
- You might remember her from many projects in her long career, but it is her Turkana collection at the New York Fashion Week a few years ago that showed her head above the parapet.
- Apart from her SK Collection brand, she runs Mcensal School of Fashion that she started in 2009.
When you ask Sally Karago what fashion is, she says it is
the sky, the trees and the animals. To mean fashion is around us and it
is not conventional.
You might remember her
from many projects in her long career, but it is her Turkana collection
at the New York Fashion Week a few years ago that showed her head above
the parapet. Apart from her SK Collection brand, she runs Mcensal School
of Fashion that she started in 2009.
She met JACKSON BIKO in her studio in Karen, Nairobi.
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How important is apprenticeship as an upcoming fashion designer? Do you have to go to a fashion school to be a good designer?
You can’t be a good fashion designer if you don’t go to a
fashion school. I don’t believe you can. People try learning from
YouTube and from books but you must be in a place where you get the
skill taught. You may be an apprentice but you may not know how to
design.
So you can’t watch someone design and learn from them?
No.
You can’t. I’ve had students coming to do attachments and they cannot
learn what I know because I’ve been in the industry for long. If you ask
a young designer today what’s going on most will not be able to tell
you. Being on Pinterest isn’t enough.
If people are colours, what colour are you?
Yellow.
I think yellow brings brightness. What I have learnt in this business
of selling clothes is that yellow is one colour that sells faster than
any other colour in my shop.
Why?
Because it’s yellow and it’s very good to our skin colour and it suits everybody.
What would you be wearing and think, ‘today I’m going to dress in an extremely edgy way’?
If
it’s a hot day, I’ll probably wear something sleeveless or even a loose
fitting dress. It would have an edgy cut. Then I’d wear those Jesus
shoes — the ones that you tie to the knees? That would be really edgy
for me because that is not what people expect me to wear. And then in a
cold season, probably I’ll wear high boots and a jacket because the way I
would dress, even a 24-year-old girl will admire me.
How much of yourself reflects in your work? Are you able to stand away from your art and produce independently?
Everything
about my work, everything that I do is loose. I don’t do tight. I’m
very gypsy in the way I dress and all the things that I sell. I don’t
have hems, my things are cut in a different way. When you look at my
jackets, they don’t have seams. So, everything that I do has something
edgy about them.
Gypsies are known to be nomadic and unconventional even ….
Yes
… I used to wear these bandanas, I mean, I’ve gone through it all. I
usually wear a lot of jewellery. In my house, I have a wardrobe for just
jewellery. Every one of them has a value and it has something that
matches whatever it is I choose to wear.
Do you
always worry that as you progress in age as a designer, the latest
trends will fly over your head and you will then be completely out of
touch with what young people want to wear?
Oh
no! It doesn’t bother me at all. I know there are some things that are a
no, no for me. For instance, I will not go down the streets in a tight
fitting skirt and heels.
I believe that elegance can
come in different ways. You don’t have to wear too tight to be classy.
You can wear something loose and still look trendy. It’s how you value
your body first and what you want to show.
Some people
have nice legs, so they wear minis which is OK, some people want to wear
low cuts to show their cleavage and others arms, and that’s OK. I don’t
have a problem with that, but, it depends on you as a person and what
makes you comfortable.
Are you interested in trends?
Of course, yeah.
How do you make sure that you stay relevant?
First,
I teach in a fashion school so if I’m not relevant to my students then
they would not listen to me. My students also challenge me, and I also
have to challenge them. So, you must always know the colours, the
fabrics that are trending. That is what keeps me on top because then I’m
able to go and buy the colours. I just don’t buy anything.
And what colour is trending now?
Olive
green, that looks like brown mustard. Luminous yellows and greens are
also trendy. I’ve just came from China, all these trendy colours were
mostly sold out.
What kind of a girl were you
when you were growing up? Were you the kind that knew how to match her
shoes with her dress at a very early age or did the fashion bug bite
much later in life?
My dad was very
fashionable; he loved a good style and he loved life. From when I was 12
years old, he saw something in me so he would ask me to choose what he
was to wear.
If we went shopping, he would ask me to
dress all my sisters — we’re five girls. As I grew older, I met a
designer called Priscilla. I used to go and sit with her and watch what
she was doing. So, when I finished my O- levels, l just went into a
local fashion college. Then I went to Europe for four to five years and
when I came back, I started my fashion house.
How has what you do here as a designer impacted on your children artistically?
They
are all artists. My son — the oldest — is in school in California, USA.
He’s an actor. His name is Raymond, he’s 24 and he’s done a few great
things in California. He wants to get into production.
I
have a younger son called Tendo. He is very edgy in the way he dresses,
very fashionable. He wants to be a music producer even though he’s good
in science and mathematics.
So, the artsy bit they get from you …
And
my husband is an architect, so we are all artists in the house. Through
my husband, I have learnt a lot about colours. I can do interior design
because as a fashion designer, if you don’t understand colours, then
it’s very hard to become an interior designer.
Which piece of jewellery or item of clothing do you own that you absolutely cannot give away?
I
did a Turkana collection that I exhibited in London and New York. Those
are sentimental to me because nobody had ever done the Turkana look
before. We always do the Maasai look. But through this work I have been
invited to the Mercedes Benz fashion show in Accra in August.
How long does it take for you to prepare; from the moment you leave the shower to stepping out of the house?
Ten minutes. I never plan what to wear the previous night. I don’t wear heavy make-up so that reduces my preparation time.
Undo something in your 30-plus years as a fashion designer ….
That’s
a hard one. (Pause) I’d advocate for tailors to be noticed more. But
it’s an important component of our business yet they don’t drive cars or
own houses or get bank loans. Nobody really sees it as a profession. I
have a tailor who has been with me since I started, he’s 60-years-old.
That’s all he has done in his life.
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