The
Chief Executive Officer of the Nigerian Stock Exchange, Mr. Oscar
Onyema, in this interview on AriseTV clarified issues surrounding the
recent listing of MTN Nigeria Communications Plc on the stock exchange
and also spoke about efforts to deepen the country’s stock market. Hamid
Ayodeji brings the excerpts:
What does the listing of MTN Nigeria
on the Nigerian Stock Exchange by way of introduction mean and this
issue of free float and obstruction of retail investors from having
access to the shares at this point?
Listing
by Introduction is a process whereby a company is brought on to the
exchange without doing what is called an initial public offer (IPO),
that is without raising capital from the company, from the shareholders
or selling shares to raise capital. The idea is that they are listed on
the platform to allow the existing shareholders who may want to sell
their shares in the open market to do so. However, you cannot force them
to sell their shares. So, it is like me asking you to sell your house,
you will sell it when you want to, either because the price is right or
because you need the money immediately. With regards to free float, we
have three listing boards for companies on the exchange – the premium
board, the main board and alternative securities board and they have
different listing standards you must meet to get on to each of these
boards. The idea of having these boards is to segment the market and
properly service the various segments of the market. The premium board
is for companies that hold themselves out for having the highest
standards as regards to corporate governance and have a minimum of N200
billion in market capitalisation. For those companies, we say they must
have a minimum of 20 per cent in free float of N40 billion. The way we
calculate free float, which is available on our website is that the
directors, the promoters, their families are not calculated in that free
float. That means free float is shares that are available to sell if
you want to. In fact, in certain instances we actually lock up 50 per
cent of the shares of the promoters for a period of time. For example,
if you were coming to do an IPO. So, it is very important to educate the
general public that free float means it’s a calculation that allows you
to sell if you wanted to sell. In this case, the N40 billion free float
was more than double, they met it and so that is not a problem at the
exchange.
Let us talk about the waiver that was
granted to MTN, it is not exclusive to MTN as you have granted such
waivers to others in the past. But why did MTN deviate from its initial
public offer?
MTN
did not get a waiver on free float. The minimum free float is N40
billion for premium board companies and when they came in, they came in
with 82 billion in free float, so there was no waiver there. Have we
granted exemptions before? Yes, we have and we have given a compliance
plan to such companies to meet those standards. So, again the exchange
has authority to grant such waivers. But in this particular case, that
waiver was not granted because they met the standards. So with regards
to an IPO, the company has publicly stated that they want to do an IPO
and they would do it when market conditions are right and when they have
dealt with present issues they have with the Office of the Attorney
General of the country, that will then allow them to get a proper
evaluation. We don’t typically speak on behalf of companies. So, in
terms of the company’s plan, you would need to speak with the company.
But this was what they presented to us and the public. It wasn’t an
exemption; there are many ways to be listed on the stock exchange. You
can do an IPO, you can do Listing by Introduction, mergers and
acquisition, you can do deposit receipt; so there are multiple ways and
they are not exemptions, but avenues to attract people to bring their
companies to list on the market.
Do you think it was right for the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission to have invaded MTN Nigeria’s office?
I don’t
think it is my place to comment on what security agencies and various
financial regulators, do but at the exchange we hold ourselves to
international standards. The first thing I want to make clear is that
our market works the way it was designed to work, our market is a place
that you come to of your own free will to buy and sell, depending on
sentiments, price, analyses that you have done. We don’t conduct
investigation in the public. So we look at market activities on a daily
basis not to the second level, but to the micro second level, so we can
actually replay everything that has happened in the market on a given
day. So we look at market activity when there is noise to make sure
nothing has happened, and if we do not do that, the system we have which
is called Smart and is one of the best surveillance in the world was
programmed to automatically kick out exceptions if certain parameters
are not met. The reason why I said that is in international markets it
is rear for the FBI to raid a company because there is negative news in
the press about them. So, we should wait for the result of the
investigation. I am sure the EFCC has their own operating methodology
and they must have something they are looking at, so I am not competent
to talk about what triggered their investigation. I can only talk about
our own activity and ours is to make sure we have a fair and orderly
market which we try to do using global standards.
The point raised about the EFCC
intervening, if there are infractions should that not be the
responsibility of the Securities and Exchange Tribunal (IST)?
I think
there is a lot of educating that needs to happen on the way the market
works. The exchange is a self-regulatory organisation. That means we do
front line regulation pursuant to delegated authority from the
Securities and Exchange Commission, which has the responsibility to make
sure we have a market place that works the way the law orders. If there
are criminal activities, the NSE and SEC do not pursue such cases. We
have relationship with organisations that have such authority. For
instance, we have an MoU with the EFCC. So, if there are cases we
looking at with criminal aspects we pass them on to the EFCC based on
our MoU which also allows for a number of other things including
capacity building which they train us twice a year and we also train
them twice a year so that we can operate together smoothly. When there
is a case brought up that is not criminal we do have our administrative
processes that goes from the exchange level to the SEC level, to their
own administrative proceedings and to the IST, which is like a court
with people that sit as judges almost equivalent to the High Court. So,
what they did is not usually the first line of approach, it is usually
when you have established that there is something and you are going
through dispute resolution mechanism in the capital market.
What has been the effect on the market?
I think
it has been very bad for the market. We have worked very hard to create a
market place that is credible and people can have trust in; the only
thing that makes the market works is trust and the noise that this
listing has generated has been such that with initial activities in the
market you saw various companies benefit from the renewed interest
investors had in the market. The All Share Index rose up and post the
raid, we have seen it go back into negative territory. One of the
reasons we hold ourselves to high esteem is because 52 per cent of
market activities is international, while about 48 per cent is domestic
in terms of market activity. It is very important we view these things
from the lenses of the national economy, the capital market and the
impact they could have on millions of investors that participate in the
market on a daily basis.
Airtel has also indicated its
intention to list on the NSE. What are you doing to attract
institutional investors such Pension Fund Administrators who are holding
N9 trillion pension funds according to recent report?
The
first thing is there is a lot of work that goes into getting any company
to come to list. To be listed, they must find value in the listing
proposition and it must meet their strategic business objectives before
they are listed. So, we are in conversation with hundreds of companies
in different industries that are operating inside and outside of
Nigeria, but have some Nigerian linkage to list. So, I cannot comment on
a particular company, but I can give you the general feedback. In
regards to attracting institutional investors such as pension fund
administrators into the market, it is based on trust and other things,
with the first being country risk whereby you ask if you would be able
to make more money in country A versus country B, based on the policies,
how easy it is to do business and the competitiveness of the country.
Once you have passed that hurdle the next thing is industry risk; which
industries are growing fast and competitive and also gives you the
highest form of return you are looking for. For PFAs, the most important
for them is to protect the principal because these are money they are
holding in trust for people that are contributing towards their
retirement, so 30 years from now, when people that are in their 30s
start getting to retirement age, they should be able to have money in
their retirement account to spend to maintain their lifestyles. So they
run through those types of analysis to decide whether they want to put
money in equities or fixed income or other asset classes. They must have
diversified financial portfolios because we know from modern financial
theories that a diversified portfolio gives you the best return in the
long run. You can put all your money in one stock, but it is highly
volatile; so you want to maintain a number of asset classes that are not
highly correlated but would give you good risk adjusted returns. So for
us, we are always engaging with the PFAs and other institutional
investors such as asset managers and insurance companies to continue to
make the case for them to use our platform which is a multi-asset
platform. We offer equities, fixed income, exchange traded funds and now
we are working on derivatives so they can have multiple channels from
which they can invest in and they do use.
In developed and developing
economies, pension funds contributes a large amount to the stock
exchange, unlike in Nigeria. Can the relationship between the NSE and
PenCom become profitable so that we generate a higher percentage on the
NSE?
We have
some structural challenges concerning the way we run some things in the
country. If you look at some countries, that have well developed pension
system and well developed capital markets that would have been
achievable because the assets they are holding are for a long period of
time and those assets would be invested so as to generate the highest
returns over a long period of time. Secondly, they would also invest in
equities market as the foundation of their holdings because empirical
studies show that over long period of time, equities give you the
highest risk adjusted returns. Things do not function that way in
Nigeria. But consider the fact that our stock exchange has only been in
existence since 1960; it is relatively new compared to more developed
markets. We have discovered that when you do the analysis on an
inflation adjustment bases you are beating inflation by just a margin,
if it was done on a dollar basis so as to compare your performance with
other countries, you lose all those gains. So, we have a lot of work to
do to become a very competitive market and not from only the equities
perspective, but every other instruments pension funds can put their
money into. The reason why I said we have structural challenges is that
If you look at inflation rate and you look at rates that we are paying
for treasury bills, bonds, and then look at the people borrowing, it is
mostly the government. So you could argue that there is a crowding out
effect. The size of government’s spending is actually small compared to
the private sector. So, so we need to channel funds to the private
sector to allow for a more inclusive economy that would drive higher
valuation because the profit sector knows how to do business and the
private sector tends to give high returns.
All of these issues have exposed a
lack of transactional activities between the equities market, but the
NSE has an investors education programme. So is it safe to say the
programme has failed or needs to be revamped?
On an
average we do have face to face contact with 20,000 people annually
across the country in our various investors programme. In a country with
190 million people and with about 65 per cent of that population under
the age of thirty; we need to find new ways to reach these potential
investors. So we are deploying technology to reach people in ways they
are used to being communicated to. So, the answer to your question is
that it has not achieved its objective but we understand that we need to
keep evolving with our approach methods, using technology as a key
tool. We also know that not everyone is technologically savvy, so we are
also making use of the traditional methods of approach, which includes
face to face interactions, radio stations, newspapers, television
stations. Clearly, one of the things that struck us is that there seems
to be lack of understanding of how the market works.
Earlier you mentioned compliance
framework, how strong is that compliance framework at the NSE? For
example, in 2010, when Dangote Cement came into the market, they did
offer for sale instead of Listing by Introduction and they have been
getting waivers annually from the exchange, why haven’t you compelled
Dangote Cement to offload more shares to the retail investors. You have
rules about timely declaration of results and still these companies
break these rules, and the NSE has been very lenient with pursuing these
cases, why is that so?
I do not
think that is how it is, we deserve some credits for the work we have
done concerning compliance. Generally, we have revamped compliance
framework since 2011 and we have focused on a number of things
consistent with international standards. The first thing is
transparency. If you look at the reports we put out on our website, it
shows you the compliance status of companies that we have issued fines
to and have not met their reporting timelines, companies that have one
deficiency or another. Secondly, we introduced the companies’ status
indicator symbols, an eleven symbols that show companies below the
listing standards, even on the ticket tape it is almost like a buyers’
beware, stating that the company is below listing standard as you try to
make a decision concerning buying the stocks of that particular
company. We have actively engaged with the issuer committee who make it a
lot easier for them to report too various distribution platforms that
we have. We also started proactively engaging the companies reminding
them when the deadline is about due and for them to inform us if they
are having challenges and we changed an aspect of rules making sure that
a company that will file late puts up press release in the newspapers
stating why. Having worked with such companies up to the point of the
deadline for reporting, if they miss those deadlines, we issue fines. In
fact, we have been accused of issuing too many fines. So because of our
activities concerning compliance, we issue out fines, delist companies,
suspend companies for lack of regulatory compliance and again we were
criticised for delisting companies.
Yes, that is because of the investors’ rights. What happens to the investors?
The
investors have the responsibility to protect their investments and the
law provides for that, which is why investors have the right to attend
Annual General Meetings, they have the right to ask members of the board
questions. You cannot put your money on the table and walk away; your
eyes need to be on your money. That is the first line. As an investor,
the law allows you certain rights to make sure you are holding your
directors and management to account. The NSE now has a wrap around that
to make sure the companies continue to make their listing standards; so
they have to file quarterly financials, market-moving information and
then there is the apex regulator in the capital market which is the
Securities and Exchange Commission, which has its own rules and
regulations around investor protection. So, there are so many layers to
protecting investors. It is like driving because the first
responsibility in driving is for you, making sure that you abide by the
rules of driving. In addition to that, you have the police to make sure
that other drivers keep to the rules and don’t drive into you.
One of the greatest issues that
has come up concerning cost of transactions on the NSE is that it is on
the high side. Is this something you are going to look into to deepen
market participation?
We did a
transaction cost analysis years ago where we looked at the entire cost
of listing and trading in Nigeria. The first thing to highlight is that
there are many players involved in the listing process. There are
statutory fees you have to pay SEC, then listing fees to pay NSE,
eligibility fees to pay the CSCS, you would also pay your advisers,
investment bank, brokers, lawyers. So looking at the entire value chain I
agree we are not competitive from a pricing perspective so there has
been an effort led by the SEC and NSE to see how we can make the market
more competitive in terms of pricing. Changing prices does not
necessarily mean more listing or volume in the market, we have tried
that before. There are a number of things that need to be put in place,
in our alternative securities market where we slashed the prices such
that listing fee is N100,000 and we have not seen companies knocking at
our offices that they want to list. One of our challenges concerning
this is the feedback we get from companies are bigger issues around what
kind of incentives do we get for being a listed company? So those
companies say can we get some tax break? Considering all the regulatory
weight that has been placed on them. They want to know the kind of tax
incentives they can get from being listed. Another feedback we got from
them was that, once they are listed the feasibility of the company is
high, everyone sees the activities of the company; however, the
feasibility can be positive or negative. For example, all the agencies
go after them for sign levy and other fees, so I think we need to get
the environment working right. Given the feedback from companies, we
also decided to make it sharper for them to understand the value
proposition for listing which is when you become a listing company it
shows you have gone through a rigorous process on whichever of the
boards you decide to list. It means people can give you the benefit of
the doubt because your transaction activities are more transparent, even
getting loans from banks becomes cheaper, raising capital you have the
flexibility of raising either equity or debt on the same platform. Thus,
strategic investors find you more attractive for investments and if
there are multiple companies listed in that industry you have a peer
group you can be compared to. For
companies that have founders, you have to think about how the company
can transition into one generation and the other and listing gives you
the best opportunity for your company to continue surviving. Studies
have shown that coming to list gives your company credibility.
The NSE has been talking a lot about demutualization, what does that mean?
It means
you are transforming from a company that is limited by guaranty to a
company that is limited by shares. And in other for you to demutualise
you need to have a framework that is supported by law. By the way stock
exchanges all over the world have already demutualised. In the world
federation of stock exchanges, out of the 65 board members there are
only eight that are not demutualised and Nigeria is one of them. In
Africa we have 11 that have already demutualised so that is the way to
go because it allows you to unlock various potential with regards to the
growth of the capital market and exchange market. In Nigeria, the
company law did not have a clear path to go from a company that is
limited by guaranty to one that is limited by shares. It is not bullet
proof so we to create the Demutualisation Act. We thank the National
Assembly for passing that bill and also the President for signing the
bill into law. We now have a framework that allows us to move through
the demutualisation process. There is also the need to mention the SEC
rules concerning it, there is a demutualisation rule that we follow.
Putting together documentation, we all already had a whole team which
includes lawyers and financial advisers. We are also working on the
ecosystem to make sure we put in place all the mechanisms that would
allow us to transition seamlessly from a company limited by guaranty to
one that is limited by shares. We are not demutualising for the sake of
it, we are doing it so we can unlock certain values for the economy and
capital market. It is also not just about following the rules of SEC and
the Demutualisation Act, it is also about critically examining your
business. And there are certain requirements for demutualising and
eventually going to the public market. One of them is separating your
business activities from your regulatory activities and there are three
models for doing that.
As the CEO of NSE, what should we expect at the end of your tenure?
My
legacy would be that we have been able to prove to the international
market that this is a preferable option for investment that facilitates
the durability of millions that are potential investors in the market.
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