Mrs Melinda Gates, the co-chair of the Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation, last week made her fourth trip to Kenya to launch a new
initiative meant to promote use of technology in reducing poverty,
called ‘Pathways for prosperity’.
Mrs Gates discussed about how it will be implemented.
1: What is Pathways for Prosperity and how is it working to achieve global development and what is your role in it?
Technology can be used for good or for evil but one thing we know is that it is here to stay and moving very quickly.
Part
of the reason for launching Pathways for Prosperity is to think about
how we can include everyone and use it for the best of societies both
high-and low income countries.
The Pathways for Prosperity looks at the rapidly advancing technology.
Although technology is helping to equalise all places in the world, there are other places that have been left behind.
Through
this commission, we are looking at both the pros and cons of the
advance in technology, where has it worked to inclusively benefit people
and how we can make sure that nobody is left behind.
2: Is there a particular focus on collaboration between academia and private sector to advance human development?
Absolutely,
we want to bring together experts from different fields including NGOs,
private sector and government to really look for solutions that benefit
everybody.
One of the best examples lies here in Kenya where mobile money, M-Pesa, has been able to transform lives.
The first time I saw it was in 2007 in Tanzania.
Now
we see financial technology services in almost 30 countries and the
ones who put in the right regulations and policies have had the steepest
growth and have been the most inclusive.
These are some of the examples that I think will shape the rest of the world.
3: Why is the launch of the commission taking place in Kenya? Why now?
I think that some of the most innovative ideas in the world can come from places like Kenya.
I
mean the iHub, which has been in existence since 2010, is pretty unique
and people are starting to call Kenya the Silicon Savannah.
But
not only does the iHub exist, it also has a venture fund that can
support new innovators and businesses and I would like to see three
dozens of those at least around the African continent and not just in
Kenya.
In this way, people will be able to come up
with ideas that will work for their countries and economies and which
can also be shared globally.
4: What is the
single most important achievement that the Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation has been able to attain by investing in health care in
Africa? And are we likely to start seeing a technology-driven push in
that area?
Technology and innovations have been key to saving people’s lives.
And vaccines are one of the biggest examples.
Childhood
mortality has been reduced by half in the past 20 years, thanks to
vaccines that have the right strains for the developing world.
When
I started doing this work 20 years ago, there was no human papilloma
virus (HPV) vaccines for prevention of cervical cancer in women — now
there is and we give it to young girls.
Cervical cancer kills 600,000 women annually and this will stop happening once everybody gets this vaccine.
5:
The foundation has announced that in the next 20 years, it will pay off
$76 million (Sh7bn) of Nigeria’s polio debt through their namesake
foundation.
Do you think your foundation should pay debts for countries?
We should be very specific about that debt.
There
was an incentive programme that if Nigeria met certain benchmarks and
goals for eradicating polio over a certain period of time, which they
have been able to do, then the expense for that, the debt would then be
erased.
That is what happened. This is a way of doing innovative financing to spur the right thing in health.
6:
Kenyan innovators are giving us hundreds of new ways of tackling
economic, health, and social issues every year, but most of these hardly
take off.
What could be the problem, and how have innovators in other countries worked around this challenge?
Are there any health care innovations that you are excited about?
How
can they be applied to Africa? Are we likely to see this innovation
tailor-made to be as user friendly as possible and how will this be
done?
I think that is part of having
policies and guidelines right in countries because it helps businesses
to move from being merely pilots to scaled up projects.
And
we have an example of one local idea that is really scaling called
Tala, a finance app that has helped people get their financial records
in order so that a small business can get up and running, something
which is not easy to do in Africa.
Through this, Tala has been able to be used in 10 different countries.
I
think if the business is done right and spurred in the right way and
direction with a good policy environment, businesses can grow and get
spread easily.
Businesses that are inspired by consumer needs, what the market will support are also the ones that make the most sense.
However, they ought to have a good regulatory environment and good funding.
7:
How, in your view, will technology change the prospects of jobs and
economic opportunities in developing countries, and what kind of policy
shifts should we anticipate if we are to be successful in this regard?
I think it will bring far more people into the formal sector.
Two
examples I can give — in India, where they got their policies and
regulations right just a few years ago for having mobile money.
What this meant was that all of a sudden, a huge number of accounts were opened and people were actively using them.
The
government started putting its government-to-person payments through
that and all of a sudden when a woman had her own account separate from
her husband and she got a government payment, she moved from the
informal to the formal sector of the economy, got a job and increased
her own income by 25 per cent.
In Indonesia, there is a
hyper-local transport, logistics and payments company, GO-JEK, that in
the last two years called has brought together people from the informal
and formal sectors into ride sharing, as well as service delivery,
creating an estimated 1.5 million jobs.
To me, these are the ways we will begin seeing the benefits of technology to people in developing world.
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